Kelly Clarkson on “Chemistry,” Her Divorce Record


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The “American Idol” breakout star has long written anthems of love and heartbreak. Chronicling the end of a marriage for her recent album “Chemistry,” she tells the staff writer Hanif Abdurraqib, was a very different thing. David Remnick talks with Hernan Diaz about “Trust,” Diaz’s very contemporary novel of financial misdeeds in the run-up to the crash of 1929. The novelist was interested in high finance as a realm of “pure abstraction” that isolates capital from the labor that produces it. Plus, Robert Samuels, a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer on race and politics, shares his secret pastime: watching classic figure-skating videos on YouTube.

Kelly Clarkson on Writing About Divorce

The “American Idol” breakout star has long written songs of heartbreak. Writing about the end of a marriage for “Chemistry,” she tells Hanif Abdurraqib, was a very different thing.


Hernan Diaz’s “Trust,” a Novel of High Finance

The author was nearly unknown when his second novel—about a shady, mega-rich financier—won the Pulitzer Prize. He talks with David Remnick about the “pure abstraction” of money.


Robert Samuels on Life and Figure Skating

A writer on race and politics likes to kill a little time watching skating videos. But it’s not just procrastination; Samuels finds in these videos metaphors for life and for writing.


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